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Monday, November 19, 2007

Monday morning Church Thoughts

I don't know if I have missed as much church ever in my life as I have since Cohen was born. Those first few months were such a fog, I actually don't remember going much, but maybe we did. When I fist came to Ohio, Cohen was still small enough that he mostly slept away his days..so, church? No problem. I just brought my "hooter hider" nursing cover (that's its actual name, people!), nursed him up, and sat with him asleep on my lap the rest of the service. But Now... well, now Cohen can arch his back, shake his head no, say 'na na na', and growl... now, mr. cohen has learned he can be loud and frankly, he prefers it!...and now, he can play with toys...he can't hang on to them, but he can play with them...which basically means we spend hours of him putting a toy to his mouth, then dropping it, then me picking it up...over and over and OVER. So church is now a very new experience. When I say we 'miss church' I don't mean we aren't there...cause we are people. We are there...and if you don't see us, its cause we are in the lobby. Cohen is arching his back, shaking his head, growling and yelling 'na na na' at the top his lungs while I try to watch the sermon on the Tv screen admist almost constant toy-retrieving.

That's how it usually goes.

But yesterday...oh yesterday was magic. We road in with Beth and got there just as worship was starting and Cohen wanted nursed, so I sat down and nursed him...and he went to sleep. I kept thinking, 'oh he'll wake up now' every time the music changed, or people clapped, or a roar of laughter erupted...but he didn't. He just pursed those little lips, fluttered his eyes, and went right on dreaming.

Its the longest nap he's had in months.

And I got to actually HEAR the sermon.

You know what, though? I was really distracted...not necessarily in a bad way...but have you ever had a moment where you became really aware of another person...? You know, where you sense a need or a hurt and as you watch, the hurt seems to grow and you can see it on their face and in the way they hold their head..? Have you had that experience before? I used to have that experience frequently, but not so much in the last years. I really think the depression did just what its name implies- it pressed down all of my feelings. I felt numb. And I am only realizing it as my feelings are coming back...and boy, are they coming back.

There was a young couple sitting directly in front of us with an adorable little red haired boy. The girl was there with the baby and her husband (?) came in a song or two into the service and took the little boy from her arms without looking at her. Now, every married person knows that interaction... you've had a disagreement and you are sitting stiffly near each other, trying at all costs not to relax your face or look at each other in the eyes. I couldn't help but watch...their little boy was leaning over the seats and waving at us. I think I went to high school with the guy- he looks really familiar- but when I looked at old yearbooks, I couldn't find him...so who knows? Maybe I am crazy. I haven't seen them at church in awhile and I couldn't believe how skinny the girl has gotten. She was already one of those I-hate-you-cause-you-are-naturally-thin looking kind of girls, but I swear she's lost 20lbs. She was wearing little kid jeans that were bagging off of her rear end. She looked so tired...and sad. At one point in the service, he seemed to relax a little and smiled during the sermon and sang with the congregation...her face was immovable, like stone. He kept glancing her way with a certain sadness in his eyes and she never looked back, although, as a woman, I am sure she felt his eyes on her.

Their sadness was like a wave that crashed over the row of seats onto us. (I say us, cause Mom and Beth noticed it too) My heart just ached for them. I have so been there. I wanted to reach up over into the next row and put my hands on their shoulders and offer some word of encouragement. I wanted to tell them whatever it is, its not worth it. I wanted to say or do something meaningful..to help...but all I could muster was "your little boy is so sweet"...the both smiled stiffly and invited no other connection. I have been there too.

And this morning, they are still on my mind. I prayed for them. I don't know their names or what their situation is or even if they are married. But what I do know is how damaging strife can be...how hard it is to work through hurt in relationships...the great contrast of joy with your child in the midst of an argument.

I really wanted to Be the Church to them yesterday, but I felt so hesistant. I know praying for them is being the church in the best of ways...I guess I just find myself yearning for a more connected, community-oriented action. Do you feel that? Do you ever want to put your arms around people and speak into something and then you pull back because poeple just don't seem to do that? Or because its awkward? Socially? I just wonder if Kingdom living requires more than just going to church anonymously and pretending we don't see people struggling, marriages struggling, families failing...I wonder if it requires us to not be anonymous ourselves in our own fleshy issues and if, by the same token, it requires us to invite others out of their pretending...?

Now, I am not suggesting that because I don't know that couple well enough to know what is going on or how to reach out to them, that they are pretending or living disconnected. And I am not suggesting that inserting ourselves (unwantedly) into peoples' issues is a way to invite them into community... I guess the situation just has me thinking...how DO we invite others into loving community? How do we create an environment of honesty and trust among those of us who are the Church here on the earth?

Please share your thoughts...assuming you are one of the ones who can read this!

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow! What good thoughts Kate! I totally agree that there needs to be more community, more realness, transparency in our local Kingdom communities! People are afraid of their sin and sadly enough, they have a right to be, because we in the church do judge too much and we don't just accept people and talk with them about their sin and their struggles. It's so freeing upon finding that though! The church in America has gotten away from that, and I think if we got back to that, being real with one another, that the Word of God would be clung too way more than it is now! More pastors would be preaching about sin and hell and so forth. Now a days, the messages are just what people want to hear and what makes them feel good, WHAT KEEPS THEM HIDING THEIR SIN!!!! Why do we hide it? Just like in the Garden, Adam and Eve hid when they realized their nakedness and they were ashamed. Why do we hide from the one person who would be so good to us that it can blow your socks off! Anyway, that's my thoughts. If you want to discuss this more, feel free to myspace me. I'm on your friends list under Kimmie, in Arizona! :-)

Anonymous said...

I'm struggling with this as well. Just yesterday at church, the woman up ahead of me (also a new mom like me, her little girl is just a little older than mine) was crying. I know her a little bit, from nursery mostly. She's a single mom.

And I thought "Do I hug her?" We haven't really spoken ever. How do I get into her life? Or someone else's life? I feel like I am yearning so much for that connectedness within our church, but I just don't know how to get there....

Just so tired of doing church, and want to BE the church.

Sheri

Anonymous said...

I've been thinking about this question for several years now. I think that one of the problems as I see it is that too many women are all too happy to reach out to someone they see hurting, to help, but it's more like a "project" to them. Like outreach or ministry. Not so much like friendship.

I've spent three years trying to find a church home, two years in Arizona and now a full year in North Carolina. In each church we attend, we can't seem to break into the already created "family" that seem to be friends. If you're in "need" they are happy to do anything to help if you ask, but when all we really need is some friends to walk alongside us as we journey through life, no one is available. Schedules are too booked or people don't return phone calls.

We're newlyweds of four years, with two small children, our oldest has experienced significant health problems and now suspicions of autism. We have no established friends and no family anywhere near us. Because I rarely ask for help (all I really need is a good friend), I rarely talk to another human being, save for the Chick-fil-A girl that helps satisfy my biscuits and gravy craving.

So I go through the hard stuff alone. When someone asks if they can help, I'll suggest we go to a movie or something and they're too busy for that, but I should call them if I need a sitter or someone to clean my house. I'm managing my family's needs sufficiently, I'd just like a friend to walk through life with me. Someone who will be honest with me about their life, letting me be there for them, pray for them, etc. and someone who will let me be honest with them without making me into a project or running for the hills because I sound pathetic or needy.

I don't know how that begins to change. I am being less honest with people these days instead of more honest because I'm tired of being a project and not a friend. I know other women are hurting and struggling as mothers and wives and Christians, because let's face it - this is HARD stuff some days, but no one will talk about it as it happens. Everyone just smiles like they've got it handled. Maybe they have friends helping them get through it as they journey together. I just don't know how to break into that "family" clique in any new church I attend.

I'm embarrassed by this and often feel like this is my fault, but I honestly cannot change my family's circumstances to a point that would allow me to give more of myself away to any ministry right now. So how do I make friends?

Even typing this seems completely pathetic. I just keep hoping that when I am able to give more of myself outside of my family and home, that I seek to not help hurting women, but to befriend them. To have some fun and to be honest with them about where I am and who I am. To help them feel like they are not alone in what they feel and experience. Maybe if you see this woman again, invite her over for a chick flick and hot chocolate?

This is why blogging has been such a wonderful thing for me because people are WAY MORE honest online than they would ever be in person. I've realized how much other women struggle with the same things I do but feel like expressing that in real life makes them whiny or worse - failures, so they all smile and attend their Bible studies and go back home to their secret pain.

Anyway, there's my thoughts. I think it's a wonderfully compassionate thing to notice the pain of others. I have a neighbor who seems like she is in a terrible amount of heartache and while I've offered to help with grocery shopping or something (she also has some type of disability) I am really intimidated by her rough personality and have been afraid to invite her over for fear that we would have NOTHING to talk about. I'm regularly prompted by God to do something about it and I keep brushing it aside. Our lives seem totally different in every possible way, but every time I see her sitting outside her home looking like her heart is breaking right there in front of me, I want to walk out there, hold her hand and cry with her as my heart breaks too. For her pain and for the daily struggles I'm experiencing. But I go back to washing the dishes because who would watch my kids and dinner has to be made. I'm part of this big problem as you can see.

Anonymous said...

Yes! It's so hard to know. I wish I had the answers, but I don't. I'm realizing though that so many times it's better to say something than to say nothing. You never know how it affects people. I'm definitely having to work at that.

Hannah said...

Kate, such a good thought. I know there are many times when, in my rash bluntness, I just want to speak the truth (lacking love) to both close friends and to casual acquaintances I know are struggling. I wish so badly I had the gift that Jesus did - perfect wisdom and tact in every situation, and the ability to see the heart of man. I am boggled and rebuked when I look at how He handled the woman at the well...His loving - yet straight forward - conversations with the needy Peter...How He dealt with Zacchaeus. I wish I could do that! My need humbles me...it causes me to get on my knees and beg God for His wisdom and compassion. Just last week I was thrown the opportunity to disciple/rebuke a casual acquaintance at the Christian college I work at...I was scared I would lack tact and love...I prayed and prayed for God's wisdom...thankfully His grace was amazingly sufficient and He did give wisdom and grace, but those situations are never easy.

Then, in the context of the church, it seems things should be so much easier...but they're not. We're a body - a family. Families can talk about anything at any time. Shouldn't it work that way in the bond of the family of Christ? Somehow it's just not that easy. Our American Christianity tends to be very private and superficial - this makes true fellowship difficult. I've been to hundreds of churches all over America and it is rare to find one where the people are at ease talking about deep spiritual/emotional struggles together as Galatians 6 talks about. Is this same struggle present in the persecuted churches around the world? No. I've been to the underground church - it's different. Somehow the difficulty of persecution and oppression rids the church of superficial, undedicated Christians and attracts only the dedicated, serious ones. Christ is all they have and real heart issues are easily addressed. Fellowship is sweet and precious. Even the newest member of the church is welcomed and freely discourses with long-time members of the church about all things - shallow and deep. There is no hesitation to ask those deep, probing questions because the bond of love in Christ is so strong you can feel it heavy in the room. What a sweet, eye-opening experience.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You got me thinking, too. I will stop rambling now. :)

Casey said...

Anonymous-where in nc are you? My entire family lives in Eastern, NC if you're there.

I think we should speak when situations arise such as this. It's often awkward and we worry about what we will say, but have you ever been in the situation and someone spoke a kind word to you? I definitely have.

So-I think we should lay down our pride and at least give a kind word to a stranger. Often, we can simply introduce ourselves and God creates something. Other times-it's not meant for us to sit and have coffee for hours with that particular person.

I think it's always time to introduce ourselves to strangers and to speak a kind word or two. I'm sure the lady remembers you and maybe God will open doors in the upcoming weeks at church. Who knows.

We're all in this together.

Love.

Olms said...

I think community is a rough idea to completely wrap my hands around. I haven't really lived long enough to know for sure, I'm still in college but I thought that once I graduated high school and entered into a season of somewhat independence life long friendships would take place, its my 3rd year of college but it seems as if its been more of a season of lonliness. I've made friends and they are great but there is a lack of depth to many of them. I think mainly because the type of community I want and I think that everyone needs, it brutal honesty.... the type of community that locks arms with people instead of judging, rolling their eyes, being disgusted, the kind of people that are just happy to be in the same room with people that share the same human condition they do and are recognizing more and more that they need grace.

An author by the name of Fredrick Beuchner said in one of his books that certain sobriety groups whether they have to do with alcohol, drugs, abuse, food, sex, etc. look more like the church jesus was talking about than the church ever will. These groups or communities... meet in church basements/ empty gymnasiums and simply by their presence they show their vunerability to one another. Then, when they actually share their stories their problems or addictions they are met with listening ears, as well as others who are ready and willing to share back.

Its so strange how everything we do is motivated out of wanting to be loved and yet we don't notice it in one another. Our past experiences have trained us to not respond with truth. I mean what would we all do if we asked our friend "hey hows it going" and the response of "its good how are you?" never came back but instead we recieved "its awful, probably the worst lonliness i've ever felt." or "pretty bad, I really need a friend right now." its not the exact response we are thinking we are going to get. Not that community is all sad and dreary but sometimes it is, a lot of the time its hard and requires digging in to the messiness and ugly parts of other peoples lives and in return letting them to the same to yours. At least thats what I have reached on this subject.

Teresa said...

I've been on both sides of this, Kate. Just a few months ago I found myself truly wanting people to be the Kingdom towards me; even though I'm a part of that Kingdom.

I think people yearn for honesty more then we think - I know I do. I think even though we (as people) seem to fear it, I think we long for it more then we realize.

I think we need to be the Church. I think we truly need to be compassionate and broken when others are.

Honestly... I think reflecting the Kingdom (and the King) and being the Church is being Jesus toward people when it was unexpected, when it wasn't asked for.

Truly love her Kate, jump out of your comfort zone and be Jesus when you weren't asked to be.

Hm... my words are scattered. I may have more to share when I think over things again.

Thank you for writing Kate.

bethany said...

Dear Kate,
Hooray! I enjoy reading your blog and haven't been able to for several weeks now. I'm glad to see I'm once again able to tune into your thoughts. :)

I totally get what you mean about wanting to *be* the church. It's incredibly hard sometimes not to be able to give an *instant fix* to someones problems, but to instead simply love them where they are and wait for God to do the touching. It's definitely an area I struggle with, but find peace when I'm able to let go of what I want to happen. As Christians I think we (I know I do) get used to prayer and forget just how powerful it really is.

Anyhow, I'm in favor of the background and glad to be reading your posts again :)

blessings, bethany

Priscilla said...

Really good thoughts, you've definitely got me thinking! :) its so true though..in this Western culture that we live in, which has so easily filtered into each of us that are part of the Church, our knee-jerk reaction is to just wear a masquerade and pretend everything is alright when really things might not be so great. Just like what someone else mentioned before about how when we say 'hello, how are you?' we usually expect the response 'im good thanks, how are you?'.

Awhile back i wrote this poem based around this kinda topic, but a bit more to do with finding our true identity and security in God. Just as a side note, poetry is definitely not my forte at all! but I thought i'd share this anyway:

'Its Okay'

It's okay to come out
from behind your facade
to let everyone know
its been just a big masquerade

It's okay to not wear
that plastic smile again
when all you really want
is a shoulder to cry on
and the listening ear of
a friend

It's okay to stop running
from the One who is pursuing you
reaching out to you
Desperate to quiet you
with His love
and rejoice over you in song

It's okay to be real
and to live as who you are
as opposed to who you're not

(And) It's okay to have doubts
and questions
For it is these very things
that ultimately make your faith
stronger

But most of all
It's okay to let go
and let God be the director
of your path

For truly trusting in Him
yesterday, today & forever
Can only lead to one thing:
your worries to cease
and your heart and soul
to sing!

Christy said...

I just wanted to let you know that Screwtape Letters was really good. Creepy. But good. The actor who played Screwtape was so good! He had a very intimidating presence about him.

Anonymous said...

This is such an interesting subject. My thoughts on this is that it all comes down to pastoring. Pastoring is usually the first thing to fall by the wayside when a church gets big enough. Yet the bible tells us to go out and make 'disciples' of all men - that means a great deal of investment into somebodies life. When people who are more spiritually mature then us do it for us, we feel supported enough to do it for others, to give whatever level we have to give, and the church becomes a solid, connected, community. But if we arn't being supported, we just don't tend to have the resources above our own circle.
Pastoring/mentoring is something that needs to come from the top of the church and flow down. Church is not supposed to be a spectator sport, but that's what it tends to become when supporting everybody in the church through networks and leadership structure is not a top priority.

Andrea said...

Good thoughts, good comments...they've got me thinking. This week, I ate lunch by myself, planning on spending a little time away from work and reading. I sat down with my burrito and book, ready to read. I noticed a middle-aged woman also eating by herself. My heart immediately ached for her. Her posture and face carried the weight of unhappiness. I wrestled with myself (or perhaps the Holy Spirit?) about whether or not to just go over and eat lunch with her. I opted not to and read my book. It killed me later. THAT is being church to someone who maybe never sets foot inside a church building. Meeting their needs and loving a stranger. I actually went back to the same restaurant yesterday, praying and determined to sit with her if she was there, but she wasn't. For a church-grown kid like me, realizing that "church" is not confined to a building or a service time is something I've really been learning the past few years.

As far as your situation Kate, I'll pray that you run into them again, even if just to burden your heart more to pray for them.

Kate McDonald said...

Wow! I think we hit a nerve with this post, huh? I am back and forth between my parents and my new place (which doens't have internet) so In just read all of these responses this morning and I think the major thing that struck me is:
One, we are struggling with HOW to Be the church to other people and Two, we are desperately want/need others to be the Church to us.

Thank you all for taking the time to respond and share so openly with us (even on the internet). You have all stirred my heart so much...

I wanted to respond to each of you...even those who don't have a blog or posted anonymously...

Kim b.: Sadly enough, I think you are right about the church...so much gossiping...because its EASIER than being the kingdom. You make a good point about the garden of eden...I didn't think about that initially, but you are so right...you have me good food for thought. Thank you, friend

Sheri: Thanks for sharing your story...I SO relate! We live in a culture where people just keep to themselves...the church even more so. I bet she would've liked the hug...I pray you get the chance to let her know you care. I don't remember who, but someone on here made the point that she'd want someone to be the Church to her even if it was uncomfortable and I think she's right. So glad you stopped by. Do you have a blog?

Anonymous: THANK YOU for sharing and really writing out your thoughts and story...your heart really blessed mine. I feel for you in your desire for friendship not "help" and I am so glad that you shared because you brought to light a perspective no one else mentioned. I think we've all felt what you shared, but few of us would have the courage to be so vulnerable. It really made me consider whether or not I want to "help" or "befriend" others, specifically the girl from church. I feel like you opened my awareness in a huge way. I cannot thank you enough for that. I wish I lived in NC because I would like to have hot chocolate and watch a chick flick with you. And I can relate to your situation because I moved away from friends and family and never really felt at "home"in a church either...and it was a friendly place, but making close friends isn't easy. My husband and I have struggled in our marriage (esp in the first year, like everyone else) but since my husband is 'well known' I didn't feel like I could be open with people...and at times, once poeple found out he who he was, I wondered if they really wanted to be MY friend. You are in my thoughts and prayers (I'd love to know your name!) and I really am praying that God will give you a very good friend who wants to hang out and laugh with and share frustrations with...I hope I can hear from you again. I would love to switch emails or something...do you have a blog?

Olms: elizabeth, right? HOW ARE YOU?!?!?! I am sorry to hear you are dealing with loneliness, but I know it is a real part of most of our lives. You are such a stinkin' gem...I love your thoughts...you are so right about AA groups...people need a place to be real and its devastating when that place is not the church. I want to be your community..wish I was closer...

Felton/Casey said...

That is a tough one! I know exactly what you mean! It is so hard to know what to say or do, but this situation is real in so many churches all the time. Makes me think of that Casting Crowns song "But if we are the body, why aren't his hands reaching....etc." Jesus sure made this sort of thing look simple, but it is so hard for me too.

I remember once, my hubby had a men's group in our home. I usually would clean and bake cookies for his men's group and all he would have to do is come home and clean himself up. The kids and I would then leave him and his group to talk. One night we got into a huge fight (the night before a men's group of course) and he left for work that next morning without saying a word. I left before he got home and left the house trashed (not great on my part), think three kids, toys and dirty laundry everywhere, snack not cleaned up, the works. My husband ended up getting home within minutes of when his group was suppose to start and men were already waiting in our driveway. He walked into absolute chaos. So anyhow, long story short, it made us transparent. We were not a perfect couple after all, but just a normal couple with struggles, and occasional tantrums, stress...etc. I got home late that night and found out what a blessed night it was for the men's group. Apparently they all were able to relate even just a little and opened up like they never had before. God made progress in them that night...Good stuff.

Anonymous said...

I can definitely relate to your experience. Many times I have been in a room of people and there is that one person that sticks out to me…someone who I can tell is struggling. I feel prompted by the Lord often to reach out to people, to give them a word of encouragement, or do something for them. I wish I could say I obey his promptings all the time, but the truth is, I often don’t. I question Him and think “what can I possibly do to make a difference”, or I’m afraid so I apologize to God and say “sorry, not this time Lord” which is usually followed by “send someone else”.

I can remember a time when I was going through a VERY difficult time and I WISHED someone would offer a hug and pray over me. Just something to let me know SOMEONE cared. I encourage you to let her know you are praying for her and that you are there for her. Maybe you can write her a note, slip it to her after church, and let her know you are there if there is ANYTHING you can do for her. Maybe give her your number and offer to get together if she would like. But, if you do that, you have to be prepared to come along side her. Too often we only offer as much as we want to, or as much as we feel comfortable with. Instead we need to seek wisdom and strength from the Lord, that he would help us to really minister his love to them, in their love language, not ours. We need to make sacrifices, stay connected, and pursue them. You proposed the question “How do we create an environment of honesty and trust among those of us who are the Church here on the earth?” I’m sure there is no one answer, but here are my thoughts. If we make people our “projects” it’s easy to be an objective acquaintance, only trying to fix the problem. But, only when we really live in the trenches with people does it bring about the genuine love and acceptance for them that they need to trust you and be honest. [I think we also need to focus on seeing the best in people, and helping them to see it too! The main thing that keeps me from being honest and connecting with people is when I feel like they only see the worst in me. I don’t want to be honest because I know they will just be focused on the bad stuff. I’m well aware of the bad stuff!] It’s easy to say we are here for people. It’s difficult to pursue them and make the sacrifices necessary to REALLY be there for them. We need to make time in our busy schedules to meet with them, connect, pray. I think it takes pursuit on both sides, and this is usually where most friendships drift apart and never reach the level we desire. (I will hold back, but this could be another long meandering through thoughts on the difficulty in relationships because we can’t possibly be close to everyone, or be here for everyone…so, how do we choose?).

As someone else said, I think pastoring/mentoring is definitely a necessity in the church! And there isn’t enough of it! We all need someone who is helping us through the messiness of life, someone to cheer us on when we need it, and someone to call us out on things when necessary.

When I am hurting I yearn for someone to come along side me, to encourage me, pray for me, process through things with me… and especially someone to just sit with me and not run away because I’m hurting and they don’t know what to do. I hope…no, yearn for community that heals…I know it’s out there because I have experienced it from time to time. If only such a community existed all the time!…this brings back the ultimate question of HOW? How do we bring about such a community? A great book about this is “The Safest Place on Earth” by Larry Crabb. I definitely recommend it! The problem is, we can all want true community, but no one of us can do it on our own. It takes a group of people all trudging through the messiness together. It’s never easy!…and it is so tempting to give up when things get tough.

I’ve tried being honest, but that doesn’t seem to work. I have told people I am lonely, hurting, struggling and would love to spend time with them. This usually results in a reply to the effect of “yeah, we should get together sometime soon”. I leave it in their court because I don’t want to seem needy, but the follow up rarely comes. Sometimes I just give up because I feel like maybe they just don’t want to spend time with me. Maybe my “mess” isn’t a kind of mess they want to deal with. I agree with what Jason Holdridge says in his blog about this! So true. We all want the benefits of close Christian community, but getting there is the hard part. I think we each have to ask ourselves if we are willing to make the necessary sacrifices. We may think we are, but our actions speak otherwise.